Diagnosing Depression in Primary Care Good Or Bad?

Dr Shock
August 27, 2009

general practitioner

“In general, a motivated GP in an urban setting (where the rate of depression is 20%) would correctly diagnose ten out of 20 cases, missing ten true positives. The GP would correctly reassure 65 out of 80 non-depressed individuals, falsely diagnosing 15 people as depressed”?

Now is this a bad thing? I don’t think so.

  • The diagnoses of depression has a large overlap with adjustment disorders. An adjustment disorder will subside within weeks all by itself.
  • Most mild depressions which exist shorter than 3 months subside within weeks to months (50%). Moreover, more-severe cases of depression are diagnosed more reliably than less-severe forms by the General Practitioner.
  • The failure to diagnose depression accurately were mostly found in patients close to the threshold of diagnoses. In other words, the apparent failure to identify depression accurately in primary care might have been overstated.
  • The fact that depression is not diagnosed doesn’t always mean some form of treatment is not started.
  • Most of the “golden standards” used in the trials included in this meta-analysis deliver false positive diagnoses of depression especially when used by other than experienced clinicians. From most publications used in this meta-analysis it’s not cleat who preformed the diagnostic screening.

Practical as well as methodological factors explain why I am not so worried. Peter Tyrer, who wrote an editorial about this meta-analysis in The Lancet even had a better suggestion:

Rather than concentrate on attaining the chimera of perfect agreement with an entity that is provisional at best or quite simply wrong, it would be better to enhance the treatments available for common mental disorders in primary care.

GP’s are usually very practical doctors who are able to indicate treatment on more dimensional ground than categorical entities. I would certainly welcome treatment of low mood and/or anxiety with problem solving therapy compared to no treatment. What do you think?

Related post on this blog:

Depression in General Practice, psychological treatment

ResearchBlogging.org
Tyrer, P. (2009). Are general practitioners really unable to diagnose depression? The Lancet DOI: 10.1016/S0140-6736(09)61156-9
Mitchell, A., Vaze, A., & Rao, S. (2009). Clinical diagnosis of depression in primary care: a meta-analysis The Lancet DOI: 10.1016/S0140-6736(09)60879-5

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7 Responses to “Diagnosing Depression in Primary Care Good Or Bad?”

  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
  1. Given I am one of those whose depression was missed in primary care until I was in my early 30’s. I feel pretty angry about the whole thing. I realize now I have had many MDE’s throughout my early and mid-adulthood, and maybe in my late teens.

    I went to my GP numerous times with specific complaints…fatigue, disinterest in life, difficulty focusing, reading etc., not sleeping, constant worrying…three physicians missed my depression, probably because my exterior self does not always match my interior self…around others, especially authority figures I per up, am talkative and attentive. It was not until I was about 32 my new Dr finally saw how much I was struggling.

    Also, doesn’t Chronic MDD sometimes begin with mild, short depressions, and with no treatment sometimes these mild short depressions turn into chronic MDD?
    …aqua

  2. aqua on August 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  3. The discussion about treatment and recognition of depressive disorders in primary care is always about “missing the target” Too low, too little, too late but with equal frequency the opposite: too much, too soon (SSRI’s for example). The target appears to be unclear and moving. I agree with Dr. Shock that a pragmatic stepped care approach with easy access to low level (self)care programs available at (pre) primary care level might be an option. If such programs had been available to ‘aqua’ (see comment above) at an early stage, you might have been able to take matters more in your own hands in stead of having to wait until a GP finally recognized your complaints as caused by a depression.

  4. Bart Brandenburg M.D. on August 27th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
  5. Dear Aqua,
    From an earlier post: “What is more important is that the data suggest little or no acceleration or amplification of the course through time.” I think this only applies to the unipolar not bipolar course of the disease. The post on chronicity of depression is at:http://www.shockmd.com/2008/05/09/chronicity-in-depression/.
    Also wrote a post on the recurrence of depression. You raised an important issue in one of your posts about: Early Medical Intervention for Major Depression. Not that I have the answers but some facts about recurrence of depression at http://www.shockmd.com/2008/01/30/risk-factors-for-recurrence-in-depression/
    Take care, Dr Shock

  6. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
  7. @Bart. I think the dimensional approach in which severity of complaints or illness are leading with anxiety and or depressed mood need to be studied in primary care. Another argument in favor of a strong primary care. Your suggestion of stepped care approach certainly benefits this initiative, thanks for the input, kind regards dr shock

  8. Dr Shock on August 27th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
  9. Hi Dr. Shock,
    I do remember those posts now. Thanks. Perhaps the “bipolarity” of my depression makes things worse. I should not have said “angry”…sad that I have lost my vivacious, bubbly, outgoing self to this unrelenting depression is a better description.

    I think I am going to try ECT again. Do you know of any online sites that are directed towards family members of people recieving ECT… easily understood information explaining the procedure and what it does.

    I feel okay about having ECT (well…a bit scared), but my family thinks I am not thining clearly, and am “crazy”…(their word) for wanting ECT. It’s not that I want it, but I see no other option.
    …aqua

  10. aqua on August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
  11. Just have a look at the category ECT or type in ECT in the search box. There is some hands on experiences and video on my blog.
    Hope this helps, take care Dr Shock

  12. Dr Shock on August 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
  13. Found another blog about ECT, information is good, the video at the bottom is somewhat dated as far as the ECT procedure ia concerned. Just one horrible picture I wish they would loose. Take care Dr Shock
    http://depressivedisorder.blogspot.com/2009/08/all-about-ect-electroconvulsive-therapy.html

  14. Dr Shock on August 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pm

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